Thread:Mrmoptop2/@comment-26553264-20200425004636/@comment-26553264-20200426063533

The original series is also said to be on a floating timeline, so it does make sense that the lore wouldn't be linear, especially from the start. I also agree with the order of lore; I've seen a bit of the cartoon for the sake of info for the wiki-- it comes off as slightly more kid friendly than the web series, but maintains some of the quick, marginally dark humor that's kind of more subtle than the show's brand of humor.

The recontextualizing theory is actually pretty interesting, I never thought of it that way. I had written a bit about Fred having 'worked with Nickelodeon' in his history, but I don't remember where I got that from (I'm assuming it's from a later YouTube episode idk), but it would have that bit make more sense. And it helps explain the retcons in the Nickverse, where character histories are sort of 'rewritten' to fit the plot of what Fred and others are acting out (though a small part of me wishes John Cena was canonically Fred's dad lol).

It does bring up some questions, like if actual Judy/Kevin has seen Movie Judy/Kevin on TV, or if Fred was six years old playing a fifteen year old, etc. But I still dig your theory.

Especially since, in a way, it means that Fred did achieve his goal of becoming famous in-universe, and it sounds nice.

Anyway, I'll make the article name changes when I can. And I have access to most of the Nickverse material, so I can try to find inconsistencies and note them.

EDIT: From the web series, "Nobody Believes Fred" basically revolves around Fred promoting Fred: The Movie as a movie coming out on TV (in addition to his albums), so I think you're correct. The Nickverse likely isn't a part of his actual life, it's part of an in-universe franchise.

I'm kind of wondering if this conclusion has been out for awhile given that episode has 3M views or it's just that... since most (sane) people don't invest that much into Fred Figglehorn lore/continuity, we all just collectively assumed that that's been his entire life throughout the whole franchise. Like we all assumed that who he is in the web series just naturally continues into his movies and then into his show. I literally haven't watched the original series until right before I started editing for the wiki, so I assumed that Nickverse Fred = actual Fred. At least, that's my experience, but then again, I don't know a lot of people who bothers with the specifics of Fred lore to just remember all this recontextualizing stuff lmao